Seriously, ???

Thats your ONLY reason ? You do realise that there are actually some GOOD candidates out there who aren't goons.

You do realise that Issler is FEMALE. Do you have any idea who you just voted for ?

Voted already. Eventually I voted the candidate I like and not the one that can win.

I wasn't aware that Two Step was a 0.0 resident, and iirc Meissa is definitely lowsec, not null.

CSM6 had alot of 0.0 reps, because CSM5 didn't have enough to keep them from telling CCP that nerfing 0.0 grunts ability to make isk would not make us fight more out there, and we didn't want any more nerfs to our ability to live on a personal level to happen.

But to say its 100% nullsec residents would be like saying CSM5 was 100% highsec residents.

Get your fact straight before predicting the end of the world.

Right... What else happened during CSM6 that wasn't actually caused by CSM6?

Did you know most CSM influence is actually felt in the first expansion after the next CSM comes in? ie: CSM6 gets credit for inferno, CSM5 gets credit for Incarna(tho Incarna was actually mostly CCP management ignoring the hell out of everything everyone told them).

Sub count dropping isn't the result of CSM, its the result of CCP management being arrogant and willfully ignorant of the playerbase.

Sorry you hate goons so much, at least you should be happy that only one ran for CSM this year instead of 2

I genuinely share your concerns about newbie players (I'm still a newbie, or a returning bittern00b, I guess) but I think you are misdirecting those concerns. Alliances like Goonswarm and TEST are extremely newbie friendly, since they actively recruit players from outside the game, and do so with the long term view that retaining those rifter pilots now means that many more battleship and dreadnought pilots later. Our directors take an active interest in the new player experience because they have to, unlike leaders of alliances with high skillpoint minimums who are just plucking the fruit grown from the labor of many struggling small alliances that do take in new players, only to lose them to ~elite pvp~ alliances in null

DAMN DAWG.... wow-like wis and legalization of bots in the same reply, that aint cool yo, ISSLER U GONNA ROLLE WIT DAT?

abuse of schedule one narcotics is a really big problem in USA, would you combat that with legalization? no you combat that with rehabilitation, prevention, education, and most of all regulation and busting dealers.

as for other noob friendly places there are eve university and Red vs Blue, and why don't your corp take a bigger part in welcoming new players? since we are the "bad" guys you "good" guys should start doing your part to better the new player experience, every bit counts. and i don't see people complaining about PL and how elitist they are sheesh. whose fault is it when i see so many people posting here lamenting the lack of new player experience when they all seem to be in their 3 alt corps. i just find this very strange, even if they are all casual players doing the odd handful of missions on the weekend why do they refuse to stay with a corp even if they never fleet together, just stay for the chat channels, the corp mails and forums, as in like being part of a group community. how many corps do you see with descriptions like "we are casual, we do pvp pve industry basically anything if you are not a trial we will take you". they only have themselves to blame.

notice i said schedule one, the fun stuff like ****** and cocain. where is that legal?

I've actually been trying to brainstorm an idea that will allow newbies to somehow reward corps that take them in in their first day or 2, and teaches them the game. Some sort of command they can issue once the account in a month or 2 old, if they have been in the corp continuously for that time since their first week. This would provide incentive to recruiting true newbs to a good active corp and teaching them EVE.

Maybe some kind of temporary tax multiplier(tax is set to 10%, corp makes 11% for the month after the newbie clicks the reward button)?

i just disagree with the theory that sanctioned botting is the way to combat RMT. it will make bot hunting just that much harder, which is the illegal bot, which is the legal one.

Same idea as mine, but you want to reward individuals. I am of the belief that the game itself is not going to keep people here(space really is pretty boring, no matter how many shinys) but rather the community. By rewarding corps, and in a way that rewards larger, ore active corps more than smaller, less active ones, you encourage people to accept newbies into their communities, where they will not only learn, but they will have a team to fall back on when they get ganked or whatever.

Ultimately, 2 core problems tho.

1) Easily exploitable. I could keep a 100% SP boost going for a 1 time investment of a single plex(You can get a plex back from a buddy referral, where the referral is activate by a plex, with 10 buddy invites per month to all have mark me as mentor)

2) Easily manipulated to turn newbies into personal slaves and be rewarded for it. If I go pick a random newbie, tell him I am gonna get him started in the game, give him 50 mil, and use him as my slave til the mentor bonus goes away, then tell him to bugger off, that is going to reward me for behavior that will ultimately make that newbie leave the game.I can make 50 mil in roughly an hour, but to a newbie its gonna seem like I am the richest man in eve, so he will think its legit.

If EVE were not the cut-throat game it is, your ideas would be wonderful, but CCP encourages us to abuse and exploit mechanics. (The rule is that unless its an obvious bug, we can use it til they change the mechanic)

A corp isn't as likely to do this, as they don't want dead weight screwing up their numbers(unless it is a newbie training corp) so they will teach the newbie to survive so they can help the corp.

This is supposed to be it.

Issler Dainze CSM 7

Please double check since I've voted and it doesn't seem to let me confirm.

Thanks!

Issler

Good idea, I think you actually may be on to something there *clunk* (that was me passing out from surprise )


Personally, I find it hard to imagine any circumstance where bot-mining would be good for the game. Destroy botting! Maybe it can't be realistically totally prevented, but it certainly could be reduced a lot. ...Making mining much more dynamic would not only get more humans to mine, but would make writing scripts for bots harder, hmm?

"Her" post, remember I am the only female candidate this election!

Issler

2) Easily manipulated to turn newbies into personal slaves and be rewarded for it. If I go pick a random newbie, tell him I am gonna get him started in the game, give him 50 mil, and use him as my slave til the mentor bonus goes away, then tell him to bugger off, that is going to reward me for behavior that will ultimately make that newbie leave the game.I can make 50 mil in roughly an hour, but to a newbie its gonna seem like I am the richest man in eve, so he will think its legit.

If EVE were not the cut-throat game it is, your ideas would be wonderful, but CCP encourages us to abuse and exploit mechanics. (The rule is that unless its an obvious bug, we can use it til they change the mechanic)

A corp isn't as likely to do this, as they don't want dead weight screwing up their numbers(unless it is a newbie training corp) so they will teach the newbie to survive so they can help the corp.

really? can you explain? cus to me is like
seleen = industry + pvp leaning
trebor = industry + hisec nonbloc leaning
issler = industry + wis

just come clean and say vote for issler is all about the wis

Thank you so much for the link, seriously. Now things make a lot more sense to me as the community I'm in was also created and existed long before any of us even cared for (or knew about) eve online. And while we do not engage in the sort of stuff the Goons do, now I understand where they're coming from... Interesting stuff!

Oh and sorry. I know the purpose of you posting that link wasn't to get this reaction. But I wouldn't worry as I'm sure I'm a minority and most people will give you what you were looking for.

Interesting post by Mittens, that translates as: EVE favors the kind of people who don't need EVE for anything, thus can kill it without any personal consequence.

Mittens worries about the SA community, namely the Goonwaffe. He's proud of it. But then Goonwaffe are less than 3% of the player base.

As for the population numbers, CCP Diagoras tweeted them, somebody quoted him, and I quote the guy who quoted CCP Diagora's tweet. Very sound data sourcing, CCP style.

The data are from october 2011, IIRC.

The entire history of Goonfleet/waffe/whatever in 0.0 has came about because of working with people that have no connection at all to SA, and that continues to this day. Your theory is dumb.

You are aware that we have allies, right? Always have? Always will? Hint: they're not from SA.

Hahaha, check out this space nativism.

Would be nice if you used an alt with more than 4 likes.

Still signing your posts, still jealous of Mittens.

You might have missed the way that the "Goon Culture" has basically infected the rest of Eve at this stage - you can't throw a stone in this game without it hitting some guy calling another guy a Pubbie, or talking about a Failure Cascade or Internet Spaceships and how they are Serious Business.

This of course makes the ridiculous assumption that Mittens' ideas are 100% his own concoction and have nothing to do with elements of the game that the literal thousands of pilots that fly under his coalition banner encounter every day.

I should be upset that someone's pulling back the curtain on how we really do operate, but in all honesty, that guy's going to get disappeared, so I really just kind of feel sorry for his friends. Figures you'd use this to gloat, though. Have you no shame? He literally stakes his life to get the truth out, and do you offer help to those of us who are trapped? No, you gloat like the shameless self-absorbed publord scum that you are.

How do you even sleep at night?

Look at you falling for trolls.

Right, I'm the troll but that other guy who confirms all of your crazy publord conspiracy theories is 100% on the level. What color is the sky in your world?

Of course you believe it, it confirms your crackpot theories to the letter. Quick, come up with some more theories so they can be "confirmed" by someone else!

he is cheerful, happy, in wonderful spirits

Yes you do seem to troll a lot. But yes I do believe that the 1 goon who spoke out against extortion by your CEO was telling the truth. This I will admit I believe more by your and the other goons who are either attacking the guy or pretending it didn't exist.

heh must have been a space barbie lovin deviant

The good idea of incarna was establishments of casinos with blackjack and hookers. Where we would degrade ans spend all our earned isk.

not the "drop da panties" incarna with monocles.

Why waste resources on a gimmick - that is all WiS is, even with casinos - when there is so much that needs fixing in the actual game itself. Emperor mittens understands this and will make ccp stay focused on what actually needs doing, even if he is a douchebag, so is more worthy of a vote than someone who will encourage ccp to go after new gimmicks, adding more broken half hearted features for the csm to shout at ccp about.

then tell her to renounce the taint of wis

can you date that statement? i bet it was prior to June '11, i can find you many more statements, and voice recordings of The Mittani speaking on the question of spacepants. wis, what do you do with a lamed horse? you shoot it dead.

Can Issler tell us where the "Drop de Panties" button is?

Maybe because she doesn't have a clue about nullsec or pvp in general.

This is just not true.

The dozens of fixes and features that CSM6 successfully pushed for have a ton on of things that make all eve players happier. Client optimization, POS fixes, new nebulae, engine trails, POCOs, anom balancing and the new neocom are just some examples.

So unlike the members of CSM 6 who have a proven record of getting CCP to listen to them your record is having CCP ignore you.

What makes you think anything would be different if you were elected to CSM 7?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80374

CCP does not listen to the CSM. Nope.

CCP didn't start actually listening to the CSM until Mittens and the rest of CSM6 started talking to the gaming media during the summer of rage. Then CCP flew them to Iceland for an emergency summit and now the game is back on track. CCP has committed to working on space content, iterating current features and bug fixes and the outlook is great.

So what you're saying is that The Mittani was able to convince CCP on how to proceed after the summer of rage *and* calm the playerbase down all at the same time? Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me. I'm not sure Issler appreciates all this praise heaped on Mittens in her thread, though.

One of the classic techniques used by bloc-candidate supporters to get people to waste votes is to engage in a massive trolling attack to generate both a huge thread and sympathy votes. This is probably happening in the campaign thread of Issler Dainze.

@ Frying Doom

I stole your signature.
I hope that you don't have nothing against.

bump lets keep this vote blackhole going

i should also note the hilarity of "the mittani has 1250 people who will spend 1.5b each cheating him to victory out of their own pocket, but has no in-game people willing to vote for him"

What? We get plexes for our vote? Goddamn it Mittani.. Where's my 3 plexes?

Also I'm not quite sure what posting countless Anti-Mittani threads does for her campaign, other than people being annoyed by the guy that posts them.

But more specifically I was referring to THIS thread made today. Quite frankly, I find appaling, since it reduces Issler's entire campaign to the fact that she is female and doesn't even mention the issues she is fighting for.

I'm mostly amused by the fact that portraying yourself as the anti-goon candidate by sending idiots to rouse us into trolling you is a valid campaign strategy now.

Also, Issler, would you care to clarify your relationship with the Black Thorne people?

Are they official spokesmen for you or are they just misguided idiots trying to look good to a girl on the internet? Because either option is pretty funny.

So misguided idiots trying to look good to a girl on the internet. Glad that's clarified.

Meh, there's tons of antigoon candidates. Darius claims a vote for him makes the Mittani cry or something.

Supporting your efforts is one thing, what they're doing is more like the creepy obsessive way that an aspergers sufferer tries to get a girlfriend.

Goddamn, shut up. There was a choice last year which we voted between Vile Rat and Mittani. This year, Vile Rat does not want to run because he hated going to Iceland to do a pitiful job for aspergers like you. Now that voter participation is high, we're not going to lose our seat on the CSM especially the chair. Either high-sec blurfers like you take seats on the CSM and start saying "DELETE JUMPBRIDGES!" or we (GSF obviously) unite and keep the people that have null-sec's best interest in mind on the team. That's the whole damn agenda. You continue to fight for imaginary people but what do I know. I'm not a aspie like you that's got to asp all the time.

There are no such people in the GoonSwarm Federation that opposes Mittani.

If the inactive voting majority wants a say on the CSM team, they can vote. But they are exactly that. Dumb, stupid, and just don't plain care about the CSM elections.

And your corporation isn't? Probably full of aspergers anyways. At least we have the capability to power project across the galaxy. What about you? Do I see you on the map? HMMMMM nope.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Black_Thorne_Alliance/stats
Oh look, a bunch of terrible pubbies.

If the high-sec pubbie base was more involved in the CSM elections, there would barely be a null-sec candidate/member. But they're exactly that. Dumb and stupid.

The Mittani has pubbies on the CSM that he delegates to. He can't be omnigod. You surround yourself by smart cfc members and smart pubbies and you delegate accordingly.
Trebor is a great example.

issler's position on wis:
a emoting corp room NOW NOW NOW to hell with gameplay lol that can come later.

my position: let the 5 guys on team avatar figure it out (2 of them are actually high-ranking devs), will be many months of brain-storming, just drawing on a chalkboard, making stick-figure process charts i don't know i am not a game dev. so that WIS can be meaningful full of depth and so awesome that even i will be compelled to use it too eating my words.

nobody will deny that starcraft is one of the greatest pc games ever, how long did it take for SC2 to come out?
WIS will take as long as it takes, anything less to EVE's standards is not acceptable.

hey look i just did a shitload of roleplaying just now

i agree

but don't be pushing out wis for the immediate surge of subs, the only way wis is going to work for me there must be wis-only "New Suff" to do,
and not doing existing stuff but i am forced to walk to do it, like buying pirate ships, why would i walk when i can browse contracts?

by "New Stuff" i mean careers in eve, professions you can make living with eg mining/trading/combat etc with associated skills
why i am opposed to wis is that people seem to want immersion for immersion's sake alone and that is just not compelling enough

if the "New Stuff" comes out tomorrow i would do a complete 180 and start wis-ing, but i just can't fathom what that "New Stuff" would be

Ambulation supporters make this pledge! Ignore any post that the poster has included the term pants or barbie!

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate

Excellent point Frying Doom, which leads me to wonder what exactly DOES the thugswarm have against WIS, could it be because the bulk of their hurried characteres are so butt ugly that they're worried to show them around the stations?

Or because WiS doesnt have anything to do with flying space ships..?

Trade allows for fittings and ships to be bought and sold all over new eden so yes has to do with fly spaceships

PI allows for fuel for POS's etc which (even though structure grinds suck) make fights occur once again flying spaceships

I may be wrong but if you can orbitally bombard planets in dust that has something to do with spaceships

Now walking in a station and sitting on a couch? no flying space ships there

I could say the same about your WiS arguement plus climbing into your pod does allow you to fly a ship

Issler, FryerDoom, I want to make my inaugural post in this highly contentious thread because I want to make something clear:

I didn't vote for Issler. Not because she's a woman, nor because she promotes miners, industrials and the like.

You didn't receive my vote because of your position on WiS.

I don't mean to sound overly-critical, and I don't mean to sound rude, but I personally feel zero interest in WiS myself. Meanwhile, you campaign heavily in support of it.

My lack of vote is based on a difference of opinion. I hope I'm not a bigot, idiot or mindless drone because of it.

And Fryer, painting anyone who disagrees with you as some malevolent evil against which you're locked in a Holy Crusade is a really easy way to alienate supporters.

No your point was invalid, but then again maybe you dont ever leave station so maybe thats why your so inclined to get WiS progressed

If you are going to try and throw around kb stats at least do it right 803 kills, and yes cause WiS will attract soooo many new players completely leave out the fact that the main points of this game is massive fleet battles

Well seeing how in most eve advertisements you see some sort of pvp or large scale pvp going on I'm pretty sure its one of thier main selling points. As for see what eve has to offer I've lived in whs, one reason I voted two step on one account, I've done low sec life, hell I've even mined, but WiS has been the worst experience of them all

It shouldn't even been an option, ccp should devote all its resources to FiS not WiS , and I don't really care

You better behave yourself, Vordak!! Show some respect to your logistics pilots who may not have 1000 lifetime kills cause they're too busy keeping your ass intact.

Thnx in the name of miners.
You have my vote Issler.

Lolirony.

/troll mode off

Issler, if you had disowned this brown-faced puppy before the election, you stood a fairly strong chance of getting onto the CSM. This tool has cost you a large chunk of your votes with his irritating 'campaigning'. You seem alright, a decent candidate - this guy is the polar opposite.

Better luck next year....

Oh, and ditch WiS, focus just on the mining, industry, research and trade aspects of Eve, and you would gain even more votes that he has cost you.

if you lost to darius III you didn't run a strong campaign soz

My vote goes to miners friend.